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Author Topic: Public Domain or Not Slider  (Read 1764 times)
PeterC
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« on: January 11, 2009, 06:10:06 AM »

Hi all

I was just surfing for something completely different and found this slider to see if something is public domain or not (and if not, when the copyright will expire).  It's US, so it applies there only, but I thought you all would be interested.

http://librarycopyright.net/digitalslider/

The one I didn't know about was stuff published up to 1977 without a copyright notice...  This must be why some movies from the 60's are public domain... I wonder if it applies to many comics?

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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2009, 06:37:24 AM »

I think it applies mostly to Chartons that I know of. I found two of my favorite authors books available on Gutenberg. There are som Kurt Vonegut Jr and Alen E. Nourse books available there. My guess is they must not have had a copyright because I do nt think the orignals are that old.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2009, 09:41:39 AM »

Nice link, thanks Peter!
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2009, 10:29:19 AM »

What people have turned up as usable on Gutenburg is often fun.  Most of H. Beam Piper's works are PD, for instance, just to name on of my personal favorites.
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2009, 10:42:45 AM »

If you look down a little further, you can see that a valid copyright notice was actually required until 1989, though from 1978 on you could file an amendment of sorts.  And yes, this explains a lot of the poorly-packaged movies you find in the dollar bins around the country.

As for comics, yeah, I can confirm that Charlton had some terribly-formed notices throughout most of the 1960s.  Oddly, they did a lot right earlier on, and worked out the bugs around 1967-1968, so I can't imagine which legal eagle decided to "help," there.  I'm sure that other companies also did this incorrectly (after all, you couldn't walk two steps without tripping over an independent publisher, back in the '80s, and not many of them had any business sense), but I'm not actually aware of any.  Someone with a decent collection of indie books (and the underground books for the decade or so before that) might find it interesting to check, though.

Oh, and the Gutenberg materials are almost always based on renewals--I think the administrators find it easier than worrying about the original copyright and whether it was corrected during the limited window.  Usually (especially for the science fiction works), there's a note at the beginning or end of the text that explains where the story was found and that the copyright on that work wasn't renewed.  For example, Nourse's "Image of the Gods" has the following:  "This etext was produced from The Counterfeit Man More Science Fiction Stories by Alan E. Nourse published in 1963. Extensive research did not uncover any evidence that the U.S. copyright on this publication was renewed."

And I have to back up Eric.  Piper's work is fantastic, especially if you enjoy comic books, and it's a real shame that he ended his life.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2009, 12:07:53 PM »

I invite everyone to try Nouse's work. He is in the juvenile fiction section and I started reading his books from the school library in seventh grade. Raiders From the Rings, Star Surgeon and Trouble on Titan are great reads. Juvenile section does not mean just for kids but fun for all ages without sex or foul language. I wish some modern writers could learn that lesson.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2009, 12:54:55 AM »

You'd be surprised how many works had incorrect copyright notices! Smiley

There's also that other bug-a-boo - works with proper noticed but not properly registered! Smiley
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